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White-Box vs. Black-Box Complexity of Search Problems: Ramsey and Graph Property Testing

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Authors: Ilan Komargodski, Moni Naor, Eylon Yogev
Accepted on: 17th October 2022 21:49
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Abstract:

Ramsey theory assures us that in any graph there is a clique or independent set of a certain size, roughly logarithmic in the graph size. But how difficult is it to find the clique or independent set? If the graph is given explicitly, then it is possible to do so while examining a linear number of edges. If the graph is given by a black-box, where to figure out whether a certain edge exists the box should be queried, then a large number of queries must be issued. But what if one is given a program or circuit for computing the existence of an edge? This problem was raised by Buss and Goldberg and Papadimitriou in the context of TFNP, search problems with a guaranteed solution.

We examine the relationship between black-box complexity and white-box complexity for search problems with guaranteed solution such as the above Ramsey problem. We show that under the assumption that collision resistant hash function exist (which follows from the hardness of problems such as factoring, discrete-log and learning with errors) the white-box Ramsey problem is hard and this is true even if one is looking for a much smaller clique or independent set than the theorem guarantees. This is also true for the colorful Ramsey problem where one is looking, say, for a monochromatic triangle.

In general, one cannot hope to translate all black-box hardness for TFNP into white-box hardness: we show this by adapting results concerning the random oracle methodology and the impossibility of instantiating it.

Another model we consider is that of succinct black-box, where there is a limitation on the size of the black-box (but no limitation on the computing time). In this case we show that for all TFNP problems there is an upper bound proportional to the description size of the box t imes the solution size. On the other hand, for promise problems this is not the case.

Finally, we consider the complexity of graph property testing in the white-box model. We show a property which is hard to test even when one is given the program for computing the graph (under the appropriate assumptions such as hardness of Decisional Diffie-Hellman). The hard property is whether the graph is a two-source extractor.



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Revision #1 to TR17-015 | 2nd January 2019 04:21

White-Box vs. Black-Box Complexity of Search Problems: Ramsey and Graph Property Testing





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Authors: Ilan Komargodski, Moni Naor, Eylon Yogev
Accepted on: 2nd January 2019 04:21
Downloads: 738
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Abstract:

Ramsey theory assures us that in any graph there is a clique or independent set of a certain size, roughly logarithmic in the graph size. But how difficult is it to find the clique or independent set? If the graph is given explicitly, then it is possible to do so while examining a linear number of edges. If the graph is given by a black-box, where to figure out whether a certain edge exists the box should be queried, then a large number of queries must be issued. But what if one is given a program or circuit for computing the existence of an edge? This problem was raised by Buss and Goldberg and Papadimitriou in the context of TFNP, search problems with a guaranteed solution.

We examine the relationship between black-box complexity and white-box complexity for search problems with a guaranteed solution such as the above Ramsey problem. We show that under the assumption that collision resistant hash functions exist (which follows from the hardness of problems such as factoring, discrete-log and learning with errors) the white-box Ramsey problem is hard, and this is true even if one is looking for a much smaller clique or independent set than the theorem guarantees. This is also true for the colorful Ramsey problem where one is looking, say, for a monochromatic triangle.

In general, one cannot hope to translate all black-box hardness for TFNP into white-box hardness: we show this by adapting results concerning the random oracle methodology and the impossibility of instantiating it.

Another model we consider is that of succinct black-box, where there is a limitation on the size of the black-box (but no limitation on the computation time). In this case, we show that for all TFNP problems there is an upper bound proportional to the description size of the box times the solution size. On the other hand, for promise problems, this is not the case.

Finally, we consider the complexity of graph property testing in the white-box model. We show a property which is hard to test even when one is given the program for computing the graph (under the appropriate assumptions such as the hardness of Decisional Diffie-Hellman). The hard property is whether the graph is a two-source extractor.


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TR17-015 | 4th February 2017 20:59

White-Box vs. Black-Box Complexity of Search Problems: Ramsey and Graph Property Testing





TR17-015
Authors: Ilan Komargodski, Moni Naor, Eylon Yogev
Publication: 4th February 2017 21:09
Downloads: 2858
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Abstract:

Ramsey theory assures us that in any graph there is a clique or independent set of a certain size, roughly logarithmic in the graph size. But how difficult is it to find the clique or independent set? If the graph is given explicitly, then it is possible to do so while examining a linear number of edges. If the graph is given by a black-box, where to figure out whether a certain edge exists the box should be queried, then a large number of queries must be issued. But what if one is given a program or circuit for computing the existence of an edge? This problem was raised by Buss and Goldberg and Papadimitriou in the context of TFNP, search problems with a guaranteed solution.

We examine the relationship between black-box complexity and white-box complexity for search problems with guaranteed solution such as the above Ramsey problem. We show that under the assumption that collision resistant hash function exist (which follows from the hardness of problems such as factoring, discrete-log and learning with errors) the white-box Ramsey problem is hard and this is true even if one is looking for a much smaller clique or independent set than the theorem guarantees. This is also true for the colorful Ramsey problem where one is looking, say, for a monochromatic triangle.

In general, one cannot hope to translate all black-box hardness for TFNP into white-box hardness: we show this by adapting results concerning the random oracle methodology and the impossibility of instantiating it.

Another model we consider is that of succinct black-box, where there is a limitation on the size of the black-box (but no limitation on the computing time). In this case we show that for all TFNP problems there is an upper bound proportional to the description size of the box t imes the solution size. On the other hand, for promise problems this is not the case.

Finally, we consider the complexity of graph property testing in the white-box model. We show a property which is hard to test even when one is given the program for computing the graph (under the appropriate assumptions such as hardness of Decisional Diffie-Hellman). The hard property is whether the graph is a two-source extractor.



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